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As some of you may be aware, we are visiting Italy very soon, upcoming, exploring the wines and food etc of many regions of Italy.

I was wondering whether the experienced on this forum, may have some recommendations for me/us for Restaurants we should enjoy and try.

We are not really seeking 'international' style restaurants, you know, Michelin Starred modern degustations etc, but restaurants really featuring the typical 'local' foods and dishes. We would like to try to experience the real foods of the region, as much as is possible, oh, and a pretty good wine list would be great! (of course) :)

We will be in Rome, in Florence, in Piemonte, in Tuscany, Sicily and wider, so lots of scope I am aware.

Still, any ideas or recommendations or ideas would be greatly appreciated!

Broad scope, I realist, but if anyone has ideas, would love to explore them.

Thanks IA.

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Tuscany
Dario Cecchini in Panzano in Chianti is a unique experience not to be missed, website is currently unavailable (showing how authentically Italian the place is). The place is actually a butcher shop that has two different restaurant experiences attached, the top end one is basically 10 servings of amazing meat on a long communal table, do it.

Boccon Di Vino just outside of Montalcino was affordable, local and completely blew my mind two years ago. The tomato soup they served as a chefs welcome was a life changing experience. Gnocchi with shaved truffle was outstanding.

Piemonte
Vinoteca Centro Storico in Serralunga is not to be missed, best wine bar in the whole area and really good smaller meals or snacks. Worth doing at least one dinner here.

Il Flauto Magico in Serralunga has a view to die for if you can secure an outside table. Food is great, wine list very good including half bottles of 2008 Barolo when we were there recently.

Antica Torre in Barbaresco would be my top choice for a "serious" lunch - be prepared, menu is all Piemontese and the staff don't speak English :)

Avoid Ristorante Rabaya in Barbaresco - it has lots of good reviews but was terrible.

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Nothing first hand in Rome & Florence, but I can tap into the Slow Europe forum for any such gaps. I've also got some relatively recent editions of Bibenda Wine / DueMilaVini, which as it's the annual wine review guide by the Institute of Sommeliers, has a listing of wine friendly restaurants, and by that I mean generally good lists. Happy to ping you relevant details on specific towns etc. The guide is now online only, so might be worth considering. The Golosario app used to be free to download. Not a fancy app, just scanned pages of the excellent Italian language Golosario listing of wonderful food shops (and very thorough it is too - not too much gets past them).

Piemonte I can certainly put some suggestions forward, though it will help to know where you'll be. I've got a cribsheet I keep updated every trip, of restaurants, wine shops, all manner of food shops, etc. etc.

Rest of Tuscany - I can help with Montepulciano, Siena and Pisa

Sicily - Paging Sean!

Happy to help shape the flow if you're not really sure where to stay / visit. It's something that we often do on the Slow Europe site, getting a good balance for such extended holidays e.g. balance of city, countryside and coast and of the things you can do/see there. Also to talk through the logistics of Italy, which sometimes is simple, and sometimes is not!

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Some places with more local/traditional food:

In Neive (Piemonte) Bovio is traditional, food pretty good, an excellent wine list and stunning balcony location high up on the hillside overlooking most of Piemonte. Went there via Jamie's recommendation waxing lyrical about it. ;)

In Alba (Piemonte) Osteria del Vicoletto is a great casual gem full of locals. Traditional local food done well (try the vitello tonnato).
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This thread's pretty good (which was where I first posted my rehashed earlier review ;) )

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As mentioned above, very happy to help you shape this trip Gavin, either here or via PM/email.

I've attached something that I started a short while ago, isn't yet complete, but does contain a lot of thoughts about planning a trip to Italy, starting from the most basic of concepts and working through to nailing down as much detail as needed. It's a good reminder for me to pick it up again, but might help if you're not quite sure where exactly you want to go.
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Hi Gavin
I've sent you an email.
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I reckon the OP is a fly-by poster. :x I think I'm going to report him to the forum owner :mrgreen: :wink:

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Thanks everyone, appreciated. I am taking down notes, looking at recommendations, and this will be a great help in assuring a wonderful trip.

Ian, thanks for your help so far, its been wonderful. The trip is now actually organised, in terms of where we are going, when, for how long etc.

Even organised our accommodation, flights, car hire etc.

Now just hoping to find a few ideas for Restaurant experiences, wineries worth a visit, and any other great ideas anyone has ... all will be gratefully accepted, and explored, and added.

Sorry I didn't respond earlier, should have!!!

Life, running a business etc etc.

Thanks again, and any further ideas, if anyone has time, will also be great!
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Hi Gavin
Any chance of a list of locations? That way I can give specific recommendations for those places, plus dig out stuff from Golosario, DueMilavini etc. I could recommend places in Trentino, Emilia-Romagna etc. but if you're not going near, they'll be no use to you. Happy to do via pm or email if you don't want to post the list here. I can certainly add suggestions for Siena, Montepulciano & Pisa & can probably find the great little place we ate at in Colle val d'Elsa, plus lots of Piemontese locations
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p.s. I can't put anything forward for Rome/Florence, though can look something up if looking for something specific.

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Oh well, some general Piemonte recommendations follow, but I can give more specifics on places with a *

*Torino: Probably my favourite city. Easy to navigate, brilliant food and wine (dining in or from the wealth of shops). Apartment recommended here even more than normal. Quirky museums (Favourites: Pietro Micca for the underground tunnels & Museo delle Montagne for a relaxed museum about man's endeavours in the mountains). Wonderfully complex tram/bus network well worth getting day ticket (Giornaliero) to explore [see GTT for the route map]. Chocolates, including some great innovators. Kelemata deodorants (yes that's a properly quirky suggestion, but their arome e specie range is brilliant). Markets, from the large one on Piazza della Repubblica to local and specialist markets, plus frequent one-offs e.g. on Piazza Carignano. Cultured yet not just high-brow.

*Langhe: I'm guessing this is in the plans. We know all about the wines, and probably a bit about some very good restaurants (Treiso the most impressive to me, I've only missed out on the really fancy Tornavento, which gets reviews at both extremes brilliant and bad). However the walking is exceptional, right through the middle of famous vineyards (yay! for shared ownership) and with a real criss-cross of paths to cut your own route. Some woodland as well to break up the scenery e.g. Barolo to Monforte gets quickly into 15-20 mins woodland before emerging into vines. A great way to walk off lunch or to build the appetite / walk off the wine. Rolling hills make for some excellent scenery.

Beware of focusing too much on the eponymous villages, as so many others (and increasingly coach tours) do this, leading Barolo in particular down the path to tourist destination. It's not a San Gimignano yet, but it's started the journey. e.g. Mix in a Verduno or Treiso to balance out Barolo & Barbaresco. Wineries are often close together, so walking between them possible and recommended as a way of allowing the driver more opportunity to taste. Winery visits vary in length, 1.5 hours is a decent assumption but 1-2 hours or even more is possible. See Langheroero site for who speaks english, what days and times they like to take visitors on, if there is a tasting charge & contact details.

Personal reccos:
*Serralunga d'Alba: Franco Boasso Barolos and Barbera (that latter wonderful with 3-4 years on it & great value); Schiavenza (Extensive range of very good Barolos, and lovely restaurant of classics done well, subtly updated and price rather too cheap for what you get, plus their wines by the glass)
* Monforte d'Alba: Good food at La Salita & perfect wine bar / aperitivo at Le case della saracca. A 3-4 stall farmers market (Fri or Sat morning, can' recall which) was really interesting. A lovely place to base.
* La Morra: Large numbers of wineries, running the full range from ultra-traditionalist to arch-modernist. The place to compare the two. Accommasso was one of the most special visits we've had, basic in the extreme, and speaking Italian essential. Since then he's been knighted and prices are through the roof / wines scarce. A proper wine farmer; Mauro Molino (a personal favourite, with the kids handling visits with charm and professionalism); Cascina Ballarin (on both occasions they've forgotten about our appointment, but we worked it out. Good Barolo fairly priced, but the langhe nebbiolo here is a wonderful wine for the price - more charm than many Barolos); Ratti (Not as much for the wines, which I've yet to get excited about, but a proud tour of a modern and ecologically aware winery with great views from the tasting room. A worthwhile tour).
* Barbaresco: Some fairly average food can be found here, so choose carefully. Nice village to stroll up from the good regional enoteca to the tower. La Ca' Nova (Very good value Barbaresco from a relaxed, rambling and slightly ramshackle winery in the village itself); Albino Rocca (One of the few wineries where the whites really impress, but then so do the reds. Seems in very safe hands)
* Treiso: As mentioned above, eat anywhere here for good food. Wineries a little spread out, Rizzi I think you know already, but for cheaper more accessible Barbaresco try Fratelli Grasso. Friendly/genuine family with back vintages available and selling magnums at prices I felt guilty for paying so little. For another under the radar producer, albeit one that really ought to be better known, Giuseppe Nada is well worth getting to & considering to import.
*Verduno: Lovely under-touristed village. Burlotto were already well-regarded, but thanks to Galloni's 100 point effort there is increased demand. Put that aside and visit though, as he has a huge range, and good across it all, plus Fabio is a really good host; Castello di Verduno also worth a visit, with Barbaresco as well as Barolo.
*Barolo: We use it to pick up the walking map that we always seem top give away. €6-8 (not the also good Masnaghetti maps, but this covers walking through the vineyards). Becoming a little flash in places, but still plenty of charm. I mention Marchesi di Barolo, not as a recomendation, but rather the danger of a winery fat, dumb and happy on the increasing levels of tourism. Still hold a special place as the first Barolo the brains of the operation tasted, but visit only to see the perils of trading on past glories.

*Alba
Easy to walk around (mostly pedestrianised centre - be wary as they've extended the ZTL (restricted access zone). Parking at the train station is relatively inexpensive & the multi-storey car park is modern). Great food shops, good wine shops, good dining (though we've had too many average meals here), good history and they pull out all the stops for the truffle festival in October. Easy place to pick up truffle goods (if the customs guys allow you to bring them back). Markets are good Tuesday P.zza Sen. Osvaldo Cagnasso; Wednesday Borgo Moretta; Thursday P.zza Sen. Osvaldo Cagnasso; Friday C.so Europa; Saturday - City Centre

*Asti
I've never really taken to it, despite it being more of a 'real' city than Alba (normally I lean towards places that are grounded in reality, not tourism). That said, they have a very large and good market in the huge central Piazza on Wed & Sat.

*Cuneo/Ghemme/Gattinara/Ivrea/Bra/Novara/Aosta/ Acqui Terme & Bubbio
I can't imagine you'll get to these places, but if you do, I can put some suggestions in.

[For all of this, wonderful resources available on Langheroero.it tourist office website. One of the best tourist offices in Italy (visit them in Alba) and a comprehensive site, making up in content for an at times simplistic presentation].

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We will be staying all over really, spending time in

Roma, then Florence, then over to Radda in Chinati, then also staying in Montalcino.

Moving to Piemonte, and staying in Barbaresco, and also in Verduno.

Into Sicily, and staying in Taormina, as well as a couple of winery B&B's on the Mountain (Etna).

Then also Bolzano in Trentino Alto Aldige and other bits and pieces!

Hope this might help with some ideas or reco's?

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Hi Gavin
Many thanks for the locations. Some good balance in there (not all wine, but some sea & also opportunity to hit the mountains)

When in Florence, if you go to Pisa, then avoid the areas directly between the two stations and the field of miracles, plus avoid everything around the field of miracles except for the botanical gardens (if taking the train, simply head via Corso Italia and via Oberdan/via Carducci before heading left on via Maffi to get to the tower, baptistry etc. Decades of tourists seeing Pisa as 'the tower and the other stuff around it' have transformed it into the tourist tat you'll see. Those same people who say Pisa is rubbish are typically the ones who have caused these problems, because they've not actually visited Pisa, which is 5-10 mins walk east, and remarkably is a little 'under the radar. Great distinctive churches, some of the best food we had in Tuscany (try via San Lorenzo which had a couple of lovely lunch places - we also liked Il Colonnino, slightly hidden away on via sant' anna, but the wine list is apparently not what it was & quite sparse now, though the food was decent when we went). Ideally take a relatively late lunch, so you'll hit the afternoon passeggiata (say 3;30-4pm onwards) along Corso Italia and via Oberdan (the main shopping streets double up as the place to stroll with an ice cream and people watch)

When in Radda in Chianti, I'd recommend Colle Val d'Elsa as a day trip. Charming centre, relatively light on tourists, but enough to support a tourist office. I can't find / recall the name of the cosy little restaurant that we we had wild mushrooms in. The other big interest here is glassware, which is very much the local industry. Plenty of showrooms and shops to browse their wares.

My favourite chianti producers all seem to be on the geographical fringes: Selvapiana, Felsina, Monsanto so a bit of a drive to get to them (though the driving is typically very pleasant in Tuscany). However Isole e Olena aren't too far away and they do have an exceptional range when you include their other operations (e.g Piemonte) and the Paolo di Parchi range (their Syrah is wonderful IMO). Nearby Monte Bernardi would be interesting to try as well, started by a flamboyant Greek guy called Stak, they aimed high and the wines were interesting. HE's since sold/lost the business, and I've not tried them since. Plenty of 'drop-in' opportunities in Chianti I'm told, which is unusual for Italy where it's best to assume an appointment is essential.

I've not been to Montalcino, but I'm told it's more wine focused / less other things to see than Montepulciano. In terms of wineries I'm no help, as I've never really taken to the wines. Do show interest in their Moscadello wines if they have them - a revived style that had all but disappeared, so the producers making it probably appreciate the interest.

Montepulciano isn't far away, and has stuff to appeal outside of wine. Probably best to park up in one of two locations: Near the bus station and walk up the longer but more gentle slope through the city, or park up at the old Chiesa di San Biagio (where the excellent restaurant 'La Grotta' is) and walk up the steeper straight path to the city, which puts you right in the old town. The historic Caffe Poliziano may look a little tired, but do head there for a coffee (or other drink) and try their little mignon cakes & biscuits which are very good indeed, and are so delicate they'll have negative calories :wink: . Lots of old stuff to see in Montepulciano, and wandering around is quite enjoyable, though hard work with the cobbled streets and slopes. Like Chianti, there are tasting rooms open to drop into and I'll recommend Croiciani as good / good value. I think Dei are in the city as well, a little pricier, but still good value. Indeed there isn't that much ego-pricing here and I actually prefer the structure of these wines to the too often flabby Brunello wines. Tastes differ though. Overall Montepulciano is a day to get a balance of plenty of wine, but plenty of other stuff & great scenery, plus to strengthen the calf muscles!

I presume you'll also hit Siena? If you do, and like markets, there are two very different ones. Wednesday sees a huge chunk of the city given over to a sprawling market in the area around Fortezza Medicea – stadio communale. Quality very hit and miss, and stalls often end up looking juts like one another, but it is an experience. The other market is much smaller on Friday morning in Piazza del Mercato (a couple of minutes walk downhill from the Palio). Small, but utterly brilliant. There was amazing quality here, including probably the best bread I’ve tasted in Italy, and achingly good Porchetta, but pretty much everything was very good – even in an Italian context. Siena itself disappointed a little, but maybe my expectations were too high. We found it a little culturally 'cold' perhaps befitting the city of bankers. One relaxed place to eat, not far from the Palio, but far enough and on a quiet street to avoid it being a tourist trap - Dolceforte on via Calzoleria 12 (a good place to try an artisan beer with food, though they do wine as well). The Enoteca Nazionale based in the old fortress was similarly disappointing, though apparently it has its ups and downs as it's a bit of a white elephant. When we went the staff seemed pre-occupied / aloof. Worth a look to see if it's on the upturn.

That's Tuscany, will take a break before adding in Barbaresco / Verduno & around

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Bolzano
We never made it up there, in our two visits to Trento, but two separate lots of friends have spoken positively about it. Very much German leaning, with default language of german I'm told, though Otzi has ensured they'll get enough international tourists to ensure English is understood as well as German and Italian. Do try Tiefenbrunner's Muller-Thurgau, which rather surprises as to what that grape can achieve. This should be the place to head out from to get some mountain walking.

Food wise, again expect more Germanic than Italian, and heavier on the stomach. Hearty food is traditional here, with more butter than olive oil, and no doubt cream as well (Riva del Garda is as far north as the olive trees flourish)

If you do get the chance to pop down to Trento, then I'd certainly recommend it. Option to take the train from Bolzano, or drive on the good quality Autostrada, with parking easy on the day we drove in from Molveno. Train station is a short walk from the centre and likewise not far from the castle. Lovely to walk around, being mostly pedestrianised. For food I tre Garofani Via Giuseppe Mazzini, 33 , Phone: 0461 237543 has been excellent on both occasions, with what look relatively small servings so full of flavour that you feel full without being stuffed. Some great food shops clustered nearby on this street. For a wine shop Enoteca Lunelli/Grado 12, Largo Carducci 12 8.30-12, 3-6pm (wide Italian range) is closed mon am and sunday. but a great range of wines, plus a good selection of grappa, herb infused grappa (a local speciality) plus the brilliant local vino santo made from Nosiola grape. They are produced in very small volumes, so might not be practical to import, but worth a consideration. Market day is Thursday until 2pm, and it's the only time Trento seemed to bustle, but even then, not too difficult to escape the crowds.

If driving, consider a tasting at Foradori in Mezzolombardo (parking inside their courtyard). Appointment essential (we arranged ours with Maria Buffa by emailing the details on their website). Great wines, but star value in the wine simply labelled 'Foradori' (their base Teroldego). Mezzolombardo is on the north side of Trento, so should be easy to access coming from Bolzano. Also in Trento are some famous Trento Brut sparkling wine producers including the large scale but excellent Ferrari (Lunelli family).

For something non wine/food related, three suggestions, the last one very quirky:
- Cable car (funivia) ride from a place just 5 minutes walk from behind the train station, takes you to the edge of the village of Sardagna high up above Trento, in a proper old school cabin. Great views and you can walk into Sardagna itself, or head out on walks upwards or back to Trento. Very cheap fares for a cool experience.
- Duomo. True these are often worth a visit, but this is better than many. Entry to the Duomo (location of the Council of Trent in the days of the counter-reformation of the catholic church) is free and plenty of interest around there, but also worth paying the nominal charge to see the crypt.
- Fabio Vettori (Le formiche di). I said this was quirky. There is a cartoonist based in Trento who has ants as his characters. We were initially drawn to the cycling jerseys (we each have one designed for the 2016 Giro d'Italia), but like the quirkiness of his work. He used to have a shop on the corner of via Mazzini, but that has now shut. However he still has his studio on the east side of the city, and through the tourist office we arranged a visit. A really charming man, running an industrious small business. As well as the things we bought, he excelled in that Italian tradition of throwing bonus gifts in, but the highlight was him doing a sketch after he'd asked what we were doing visiting Trento/Trentino - the sketch being a gift of us transformed into ants doing those activities. A memorable visit. n.b. he's got better English than he thinks, but isn't confident, so we muddled through in a mix of both languages.

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Barbaresco
See earlier winery comments. To those I'll add:
Produttori del Barbaresco. Although they have a drop in tasting room, this is a very underwhelming experience, and you'll be lucky to even get a taste of the standard Barbaresco, let alone the single vineyard bottlings. Make an appointment, and don't be shy about dropping into the email that you are a merchant currently importing Italian wines, and looking for additional producers to take on. This should get a better tour and tasting. Not sure though if they have a tied agency for Australia.

A word for the restaurant 3 stelle in the Barbaresco frazione of 3 Stelle. We haven't eaten there, though it looked very good indeed, but I mention them as they were kind enough to book us a taxi when we bottled out of the walk back to Alba, including inviting us in to sit down. That sort of hospitality I would expect to be replicated to their diners, so would have every confidence of a good meal there.

Plenty of wineries in walking distance of Barbaresco village, so consider taking in some walks alongside the tastings.

We visited Moccagatta as well - mixed feelings on them, as they aren't shy on the oak, which can polarise tasters. We liked them enough to buy a few bottles when we had the car with us, but I'm not sure I'd return, though it was a friendly visit.

We haven't visited Cantina del Pino, but they've rapidly emerged from being a grower for the Produttori (owned by a brother of Aldo Vacca) to being a bit of a star, but still fairly priced. Walkable from the centre of Barbaresco.

Just noted 'Fletcher wines' presumably the Aussie who used to work at Marchesi di Gresy?

For food, note the utterly unappetising meal described by a forumite here at Ristorante Rabaya, so should be one to avoid

The (Barbaresco) regional enoteca is a nice option to just pop in and taste what they have open (modest by the glass charge). It's a nice little room.

For the villages around Barbaresco, I mentioned Treiso earlier. It's a short drive (10 mins) from Barbaresco but just over an hour if you wanted to walk). The places we ate were:
Osteria dell'Unione. Bizarrely got on some 'top places to eat in Italy' list, but has rather pleasingly retained loads of charm and no obvious ego. A bit warm inside, but otherwise a very good example of trattoria eating with very appetising food and little pretence.
Tratttoria Risorgimento. Subtly different to the above, more traditional, larger and better cooling. A great place to get an accurate taste of Piemontese/Langhe food
Profumo di Vino. A wine bar that serves food, and very tasty that food was. More modern / outward looking than the other two, and a great place for a tasty light meal / snack, with of course some nice wines by the glass

We do want to make it to Neive sometime, but not yet been there. Note the train no longer runs from Alba - Neive and onwards but there may be a more useful coach service in it's place.

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Verduno and La Morra
La Morra listed as it's next village along.

Although we visited Castello di Verduno and Burlotto, we didn't stop in the village for lunch, so can't help on suggestions. Not a tourist trap village at all, so anywhere should be fine, and if such things appeal, there appeared to be fine dining at the Castle itself. When you visit Burlotto, reflect on the fact that with me as navigator we drove past it three times before I managed to identify where the winery was. The irony being them having a very large mural with their name on it, though in my defence it's quite high up :oops:

I'll be interested in your views on staying here, as I think it might appeal to us.

La Morra included as it's just 5 mins drive, but maybe more appealing, a 45 minute walk from Verduno, and there should be some routes through the vineyards rather than on the roads.
In addition to wineries mentioned earlier, Crissante Allesandria (linked also to Serradenari IIRC) worth a try, two Oddero's represent a split in that historic winery, Bel Colle (between Verduno and La Morra) for decent value & interesting and at times eclectic range. Plus plenty more, especially if you take in Annunziata.

In terms of walks, there is a lovely one from La Morra to Barolo, with only a very short stretch on the road leading into Barolo. A short detour gets you to the bright / garish chapel painted by Tremlett / DeWitt in return for a lifetime's supply of Barolo!

For food, Bovio seems to get both raving and disappointing reviews, but I can certainly recommend Osteria Veglio in La Morra, with great food and views, plus the wine. Belvedere went through a very public fall from grace, but somehow our visits were either side of that. We've eaten well here, and it is classy with good views but not with pretentious pricing. Worth getting recent reviews, but one I'd recommend based on our experiences.

Grinzane Cavour
I've not been, but might be a nice option from Verduno. The castle houses the larger regional enoteca (of Piemonte) and also serves food. Might be a nice option to explore a little wider.

Other stuff (all on the main road just north of Verduno)
- If you like sports / outdoor activity etc. There is a branch of the French superstore chain 'Decathlon' on the main road near Santa Vittoria. Generally very good range / prices and at their best on cheap basics such as socks / t-shirts etc. but also good for stuff like head torches. Most sports covered, but typically with a strong lean towards the sports that are locally popular.
- Almost next door, there is a 'Bennet' hypermarket, which is decent for stocking up if you're in self catering.
- If you want to see a different alcoholic endeavour, then Cinzano have a massive factory on the same main road, but I believe there is also a visitor centre / tours
That main road gives the 'out of town' insight that us tourists often ignore, seeing only the small specialist shops in the cities.

One small note on driving. As well as noting the expanded ZTL in Alba (it's expanding from the yellow shaded area in this image, into almost all the area shown encircled by the green colour - excepting a car park in the top right which is outside the ZTL), we find the junction on the main road above heading straight on to Alba, and right to Barolo/South to be a bit confusing (and the concrete intimidating). It's one junction I'd say have your wits about you when using it for the first time. The rest of the driving is generally easy & relaxed, even though there are plenty of switchback turns in the hillier parts.

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Food to try in Piemonte

So much good stuff, but a tiny fraction of the highlights:
- Carne cruda / battuta. The raw minced beef here is very good, so do try it once. However if having set meals (e.g. at an Agriturismo) it will be on the menu most times, so you may find yourself getting a bit fed up with it, struggling to face it time and again. If offered the raw sausage, then it is highly recommended, a real speciality product as (IIRC) it has to be eaten within 5-6 hours of production. Your mind tells you this is crazy, but what I tried was very tasty indeed.
- Agnolotti del Plin. A signature pasta dish and pretty much good all over.
- Vitello Tonnato. Thin sliced cooked veal with a tuna/anchovy/caper sauce. Sounds weird, but it's really very good - actually it varies surprisingly much, from decent to sublime, depending on the preparation
- Bagna cauda on roasted Carmagnola peppers, another great combination that makes a surprisingly perfect match
- Local Hazelnuts. They really are worth the recognition that Slow Food give them, and it even shows in Nutella, the Italian version being far tastier than the French. I always buy hazelnuts (nocciole) to take home, but I guess impossible to take into Australia (even if in a sealed container?)
- Risotto is still very good down here, but at its best further north around Vercelli
- Cugna/Cogna. Grapes dried on the vine, nuts, some grape must, you know I'm not too sure what goes into it (and many families still produce to their own recipe), but at it's best (often home produced is best) it's just stunning with cheese. Ok to take home as it's in a jar? If so, and offered some homemade Cogna, then snatch their hand off.
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Re: Restaurant and other recommendations

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I think that's about it, but feel free to ask specific questions and if you find anywhere where you have a great gap on restaurants / wine bars / wine & food shops / wineries etc. then let me know and I'll look up what's in DueMilaVini and Golosario, which both prove useful in what they suggest.

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Re: Restaurant and other recommendations

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Oh one final thought for Etna - A friend absolutely raves about the wines of Salvatore Foti (his own winery - he's made wines for others before).

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