The Auswine Forum

Kicking off a new thread...

Just got pushed a Laithwaites offer on "emergency" Aussie wine deals: "It’s a perfect storm of Chinese tariffs and exports to the US being at their lowest point in two decades. Aussie cellars are overflowing with unsold stock."

I am familiar with Schild Estate and Pirramimma (and the crazy RRPs of the modern Ch Yaldara) ... not really familiar with Cape Barren, Martins Vineyard or Ulithorne, although they all seem to be part of something called CW Wines?

The RRPs here all claim to be c$150-180, about which I have a doubt if anyone has ever actually paid that, but on offer with a further 20% off these came out at c£15 or $30/bottle which seemed a fair enough discount to give them a shot.

2x Chateau Yaldara 1847 Grand Pappy's Barossa Valley Shiraz 2021
2x Cape Barren Rare Bird McLaren Vale Shiraz 2020
2x Martins Vineyard McLaren Vale Shiraz 2021
2x Schild Estate Three Springs Single Vineyard Barossa Valley Shiraz 2021
2x Ulithorne Singularis McLaren Vale Shiraz 2021
2x Pirramimma Hartfell McLaren Vale Shiraz 2022

A dozen 2022 Ox Hardy Slate Shiraz Blewett Springs.
Really enjoying diverse wider MV regions Shiraz...a nice change from all that Cabernet
Cheers Craig

Those names are new to me as well, but the CW wines site gives some info, including them being based out of the old Stonehaven winery. As you say, $30 / £15 a bottle seems fair for a punt if you enjoy MV/BV shiraz.

12 x Hardys 2020 HRB D696 Cabernet Sauvignon. Multiregional blend with most this time coming from Margaret River (85%+).

Ian S wrote: ↑Sun Apr 12, 2026 3:44 am Those names are new to me as well, but the CW wines site gives some info, including them being based out of the old Stonehaven winery. As you say, $30 / £15 a bottle seems fair for a punt if you enjoy MV/BV shiraz.

CW Wines were on a buying spree and have an ocean of wine under these brands and more. They are seen on heavy discounters' web sites at prices you mention. Good wines buy not at the RRP. I've bought a few.

Yes a lot of these have been on big discount sales for a while at vinomofo etc

3 x 2023 Domaine Bruno Lorenzon Mercurey Les Vignes d'Orge Rouge

6 x 2021 Kay Brothers basket press shiraz from a Dans clearance.

I thought I would give today’s Giaconda bunrush a go, buying for a small consortium but after last years miss I wasn’t hopeful. Website failed to load, then order page wouldn’t take my bottle volume, then it wouldn’t accept Mastercard details. Then re entered everything again and the screen wouldn’t load, so l walked away. I honestly didn’t care that much. Well blow me down, two hours later I got an email from Giaconda confirming my order!

I couldn’t get in…. Never mind, will buy LEAS instead

Website says the Giaconda Chardonnay is sold out already, also the Pinot Noir & Roussanne.
Lists their stockists in each state, which might be helpful.

Hacker wrote: ↑Wed Apr 15, 2026 9:58 pm I thought I would give today’s Giaconda bunrush a go, buying for a small consortium but after last years miss I wasn’t hopeful. Website failed to load, then order page wouldn’t take my bottle volume, then it wouldn’t accept Mastercard details. Then re entered everything again and the screen wouldn’t load, so l walked away. I honestly didn’t care that much. Well blow me down, two hours later I got an email from Giaconda confirming my order!

Did exactly the same. Gave up after a few minutes of trying and then about lunchtime got an email. I prefer Art Series anyway, but I’ll put the Giaconda at the back of the cellar and forget about them for 10 - 15 years

Last years allocation sold out in less than 6 minutes - might explain problems.

Yeah their website got overwhelmed . Very frustrating for many . I’m happy to let it pass at 160pb.

Scored a 2020 gran enemigo chacayes Cabernet franc from vinomofo for $30

They have 22 meshach for sale right now at 65pb in a 6er if anyone is keen. Good deal
https://www.vinomofo.com/wines/red-wine/shir ... -b6546h6j/

I think it is tough times for wineries, especially those with higher pricing. Their pain, our gain, but their pain doesn't sit right with me.

Well yeah there are soo many discounted offers going for soo many good wines. It makes it a bit of a hard sell to buy anything on release outside of the cult wines that always sell out, as you’ll likely get in for cheaper down the track.

It also makes me think is a repricing of the market in order if all of these wines aren’t selling

But I also have less sympathy for over priced wineries. I remember someone on here recently posted a treasury wines shareholders meeting minutes where they said their premium wines were being sold on a 40% ebitda margin , so they obviously have room to discount. I know TWE has recently ran into trouble also but still

And meshach for 250 retail, is that a reasonable price? I don’t know

Grabbed a few
2023 LEAS Chardonnay
2021 GD Varja Bricco
2023 Moss Wood
2024 Standish - 3 Lamella, 2 Schubert, 1 Relic

Cheers Ed

SipAndANibble wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2026 7:39 pm Well yeah there are soo many discounted offers going for soo many good wines. It makes it a bit of a hard sell to buy anything on release outside of the cult wines that always sell out, as you’ll likely get in for cheaper down the track.

It also makes me think is a repricing of the market in order if all of these wines aren’t selling

But I also have less sympathy for over priced wineries. I remember someone on here recently posted a treasury wines shareholders meeting minutes where they said their premium wines were being sold on a 40% ebitda margin , so they obviously have room to discount. I know TWE has recently ran into trouble also but still

And meshach for 250 retail, is that a reasonable price? I don’t know

I grabbed a 3-pack of it (2019) for a similar price a few months back. My tasting note (somewhat short and unhelpful):
Dark fruit, varnish, silky smooth mouth feel, length, tannin. A well put together wine that will go the distance.

A mail-list mixed 6-pack from Pressing Matters in Tas. Fizz, cab blend, pinot, 3 rizzers (new/old/off-dry). Value's OK at $270, but they try to sell the BdB fizz for $80 at CD, which is pushing it a bit. Anyway, the combined pack value isn't too bad.

Now that the hot weather has passed started buying again.

x2 2019 Wolf Blass Black Label Cabernet-Shiraz (after voucher these were only $35 per bottle!)
x3 2024 Standish Shiraz Lamella
x3 2024 Standish Shiraz Schubert Theorem

Auction Purchases
x2 2020 Phase Three Wines Dero Shiraz
x3 2002 Saltram Cabernet Sauvignon Mamre Brook

I also got the 2019 wolf blass black label with credits

And a 23 bin407 for 50 bucks out of vinomofo today

Interesting with standish that most seem to go for the lamella and the schuberts theorem !

2 x Standish Lamella

3x Château Suduiraut Sauternes 2023 375ml

12 x Jeanneret 2022 Rank and File Shiraz
12 x Hart of Barossa 2021 Shiraz
24 x Ulithorne 2022 Unicus Shiraz
12 x Penna Lane 2021 Shiraz
6 x Dowie Doole 2022 Cali Road Shiraz
6 x Dowie Doole 2022 Reserve Shiraz

6 x Villa Del Rose Coteaux d'Aix en Provence AOP Rosé 2024.

6 x daosa sparkling rose. 2021.

6 x 2023 Rosenthal Mount Barker Chardonnay, thanks to a JD Cellars deal at so called 50% off of $45. Anyone have experience with this lineage?