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				Re: Glassware
				Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 11:39 pm
				by TravisW
				What's everyone's favourite glass for Fizz?
			 
			
					
				Re: Glassware
				Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 12:07 am
				by Polymer
				I like a white wine glass..or anything with a largish bulb and a longer body...
I actually quite like the Zalto Universal except the bubbles go away faster..but the nose is fantastic....I like the Zalto Champagne but it feels slightly unbalanced compared to most of their other glasses...the Zalto White wine glass is also really good for Champers...
			 
			
					
				Re: Glassware
				Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 1:58 pm
				by winetastic
				TravisW wrote:What's everyone's favourite glass for Fizz?
Depends on the fizz.
I found the Riedel Vinum Shiraz glass ideal for Rose Champagne, though I often reach for Riedel Vinum Chardonnay glass for other bubbles.
A flute would be my least favorite option, though I did get to use a Zalto flute with champagne the other night and damn it feels good in the hand.
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Glassware
				Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 4:08 pm
				by catchnrelease
				Looking to buy some decent glassware for my upcoming long term move to Coffs Harbour. Was considering Zalto, but ended up going for Riedel Vinum's. When I can get 4x Riesling, 4x Cab/Merlot, 4x Pinot and 4x 'O' Chardy/Viognier glasses (bonus glasses for spirits) for only $50 more than 6x Zalto Universals my wallet made my decision for me.
Edit: Just before buying the internet cut out. Maybe the world is telling me something?  

 On second thought better wait until I'm back in Australia and feel the glasses beforehand to make sure I'm getting what I want. What are everyone elses thoughts on the comparison between the two? Six Zalto Universal's is $330 here on Auswine (cheapest I can find) and the above combination of glasses is $385.
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Glassware
				Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 5:03 pm
				by Cloth Ears
				TravisW wrote:What's everyone's favourite glass for Fizz?
To be honest, for vintage fizz, we prefer the Vera Wang flutes from Wedgewood. Not delicate by any means, they will hold their temperature for quite a while if you put them in the fridge for 30 minutes prior to pouring. And the straight profile means that you don't get that carbon and yeast overload that you're prone to get with anything more tulip shaped. 
That's when I'm told that I have to use a glass instead of necking the bottle, of course.
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Glassware
				Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 5:44 pm
				by Gavin Trott
				catchnrelease wrote:Looking to buy some decent glassware for my upcoming long term move to Coffs Harbour. Was considering Zalto, but ended up going for Riedel Vinum's. When I can get 4x Riesling, 4x Cab/Merlot, 4x Pinot and 4x 'O' Chardy/Viognier glasses (bonus glasses for spirits) for only $50 more than 6x Zalto Universals my wallet made my decision for me.
Edit: Just before buying the internet cut out. Maybe the world is telling me something?  

 On second thought better wait until I'm back in Australia and feel the glasses beforehand to make sure I'm getting what I want. What are everyone elses thoughts on the comparison between the two? Six Zalto Universal's is $330 here on Auswine (cheapest I can find) and the above combination of glasses is $385.
 
No undue influence intended here on your selections, but I do have (significant) better prices on Zalto Glassware for Forum Members, more than 10% off, so if of poss. interest, just pm or email me).
Signing off now.
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				Re: Glassware
				Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 6:07 pm
				by catchnrelease
				Gavin Trott wrote:catchnrelease wrote:Looking to buy some decent glassware for my upcoming long term move to Coffs Harbour. Was considering Zalto, but ended up going for Riedel Vinum's. When I can get 4x Riesling, 4x Cab/Merlot, 4x Pinot and 4x 'O' Chardy/Viognier glasses (bonus glasses for spirits) for only $50 more than 6x Zalto Universals my wallet made my decision for me.
Edit: Just before buying the internet cut out. Maybe the world is telling me something?  

 On second thought better wait until I'm back in Australia and feel the glasses beforehand to make sure I'm getting what I want. What are everyone elses thoughts on the comparison between the two? Six Zalto Universal's is $330 here on Auswine (cheapest I can find) and the above combination of glasses is $385.
 
No undue influence intended here on your selections, but I do have (significant) better prices on Zalto Glassware for Forum Members, more than 10% off, so if of poss. interest, just pm or email me).
Signing off now.
.
 
Definitely considered Gavin! I think I'll wait until I return to the homeland to make a decision, not long now. Appreciate the support for the forumites.
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Glassware
				Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 10:15 pm
				by Polymer
				I'd rather get 6 Zalto Universals over those glasses...
With 6 Zalto Universals I'd NEVER use those Riedels..ever...you just have to trust that pretty much everyone that has gone to them just never switches back..I use them on occasion for fun and to experiment..but really they feel like big clunky clubs...it is basically like every other glass is just a waste of time...
			 
			
					
				Re: Glassware
				Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 11:07 pm
				by catchnrelease
				Polymer wrote:I'd rather get 6 Zalto Universals over those glasses...
With 6 Zalto Universals I'd NEVER use those Riedels..ever...you just have to trust that pretty much everyone that has gone to them just never switches back..I use them on occasion for fun and to experiment..but really they feel like big clunky clubs...it is basically like every other glass is just a waste of time...
Just got a quote from Gavin and I have been swayed. Zalto's it is. Cheers Gavin!
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Glassware
				Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 11:31 pm
				by mjs
				Not so sure I agree with this. Still not convinced about Zaltos. Love the Riedel Veritas range. My experience is that Zalto just feels too fine/fragile, apart from exaggeration of aroma/alcohol.
			 
			
					
				Re: Glassware
				Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 11:56 pm
				by catchnrelease
				mjs wrote:Not so sure I agree with this. Still not convinced about Zaltos. Love the Riedel Veritas range. My experience is that Zalto just feels too fine/fragile, apart from exaggeration of aroma/alcohol.
I've gotta say the one time I used the Zalto burg I was super impressed by it. I've always liked the Universals when I got the chance. Money was the one thing stopping me, but thanks to Gav the Zalto's are worth it now.  

Never used the Veritas though!
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Glassware
				Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 8:28 am
				by dave vino
				Will have my Zalto Burgs and Universals at the Real Burg Tasting  

  So if anyone going wants to take one for a 'test drive' let me know on the night. (I've only got 2 Burgs though, but will have 6 Universals)
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Glassware
				Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 10:06 am
				by Willard
				Rather than 6 x Universals, I would go for 2 x Universal, 2 x Bordeaux and 2 x Burgundy Zaltos. Or 3 x Universal and 3 x Burgundy. 
Obviously this depends on who/how many you need to provide glasses for, and what wines you drink. I don't think the Universals are ideal for Chardonnay/Pinot/Nebbiolo, though still nice to use.
			 
			
					
				Re: Glassware
				Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 10:33 am
				by Polymer
				I love the Zalto Burgs..but they are a massive pain to transport...
Even at home I don't use them often...love em..but don't use them often..
			 
			
					
				Re: Glassware
				Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 1:13 pm
				by Ozzie W
				Does anyone have any tips for transporting Zalto Burgs? I'm currently using a cardboard box which fits 2 glasses, each covered in bubble wrap.
			 
			
					
				Re: Glassware
				Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 2:02 pm
				by catchnrelease
				Willard wrote:Rather than 6 x Universals, I would go for 2 x Universal, 2 x Bordeaux and 2 x Burgundy Zaltos. Or 3 x Universal and 3 x Burgundy. 
Obviously this depends on who/how many you need to provide glasses for, and what wines you drink. I don't think the Universals are ideal for Chardonnay/Pinot/Nebbiolo, though still nice to use.
Getting 4x Universal and 2x Burgundy. Realistically I'll use the Universals for most of my drinking and save the Burgundies for lighter bodied reds and chardonnay.
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Glassware
				Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 3:02 pm
				by maybs
				I really like the Zaltos. Not perfect for everything but so nice to use. I have them at home and in the office and will not be switching to anything else anytime soon.
I also just purchased 6 Zalto champagne flutes for the office. I personally tend to use the Universals for bubbles but it freaks a lot of my colleagues/guests out, so got some Zaltos. Very attractive glasses and nice to use. Used the riedels I have at home shortly after using the Zalto and yes, even the Riedel champagne flute felt clunky. Not that it is a bad glass to drink out of at all, but the overall pleasure of using them is just not the same.
One of the local wine bars I frequent uses Schott glasses and I think I would probably get those instead of Riedel. I do have Riedel H20 glasses that I use for water tumblers or scotch, and they are great.
			 
			
					
				Re: Glassware
				Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 3:21 pm
				by Cloth Ears
				Interesting - Shannon Bennett seems to go both ways. His shop sells Zalto Champagne and Universal, but Reidel for water and Burgundy. Although, to be honest, I don't think I could justify getting a Sommelier's water glass. Not at that price - my water just isn't worth it...
			 
			
					
				Re: Glassware
				Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 3:23 pm
				by winetastic
				Polymer wrote:I love the Zalto Burgs..but they are a massive pain to transport...
Even at home I don't use them often...love em..but don't use them often..
I use my Zalto Burgs 80% of the time. That being said, I'm drinking a lot of Nebbiolo and other aromatic reds right now...
Slight thread drift: Luke Lambert Syrah 2015 was much better out of the Zalto Burg than it was from the Riedel Shiraz, but only if you got through the glass in around 10min, too much air otherwise...
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Glassware
				Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 9:26 pm
				by rossmckay
				Happy dogs and zaltos do not cohabitate well. 

 I'm down to three so will get some more as soon as I have a kitchen
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Glassware
				Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 11:01 pm
				by Polymer
				Hats off to PaulV who carried his Zalto Burg in a soft bag with no fears of it breaking....
			 
			
					
				Re: Glassware
				Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 12:02 am
				by TravisW
				rossmckay wrote:Happy dogs and zaltos do not cohabitate well. 

 I'm down to three so will get some more as soon as I have a kitchen
 
I read that as "as soon as I have a kitten"! 

Cheers, Travis.
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Glassware
				Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 7:33 am
				by rossmckay
				
			 
			
					
				Re: Glassware
				Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 9:04 am
				by Diddy
				Ozzie W wrote:Does anyone have any tips for transporting Zalto Burgs? I'm currently using a cardboard box which fits 2 glasses, each covered in bubble wrap.
What about something like this:-
https://www.cambuy.com.au/products/lowe ... vAodsFAA7QShould be okay for length but may struggle on width.
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Glassware
				Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 9:06 am
				by Diddy
				
			 
			
					
				Re: Glassware
				Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 6:16 pm
				by PaulV
				Polymer wrote:Hats off to PaulV who carried his Zalto Burg in a soft bag with no fears of it breaking....
Not bad eh! One easily fits into my soft leather satchel and over the past year never had a problem. Maybe if I put 2 in there could be trouble. 
Nevertheless I am convinced they are bloody tough. One of my Zalto champers glasses, full of champers was knocked on an outside timber table. Champers spilled but the glass just bounced. It was so amazing that 2 couples at the table immediately ordered a 6 pack of them.
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Glassware
				Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 8:45 pm
				by mjs
				I actually got one of those sent from the US. Not bad, but will only hold three large glasses (e.g. Vinums
Perfect for two Bordeaux and two Riesling though
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Glassware
				Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 9:25 pm
				by Polymer
				I have that...it doesn't quite fit them...well..it does but they create a bulge on the whole thing..
So I've transported them this way but they lose all of the impact protection you'd normally get because with enough pressure, say someone bumps you, they're goners...
Normally the case can take some pretty decent side contact and the vertical pieces in there + the outside cover create a reasonably resistant barrier..but all that doesn't apply to the burgs..
I bought a Winecheck one...it looks bigger in the picture but the dimensions I've looked up don't make me feel like it'll make a difference..but I'll find out once I actually see it..
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Glassware
				Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 10:28 pm
				by mjs
				Polymer wrote:I have that...it doesn't quite fit them...well..it does but they create a bulge on the whole thing..
So I've transported them this way but they lose all of the impact protection you'd normally get because with enough pressure, say someone bumps you, they're goners...
Normally the case can take some pretty decent side contact and the vertical pieces in there + the outside cover create a reasonably resistant barrier..but all that doesn't apply to the burgs..
I bought a Winecheck one...it looks bigger in the picture but the dimensions I've looked up don't make me feel like it'll make a difference..but I'll find out once I actually see it..
 
Yeah, I was taking about the Riedel Vinums fitting this case. I expect the Zalto's would be problematic
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Glassware
				Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 11:35 pm
				by Polymer
				Yeah...Riedels will fit (they better right?).  Zalto Universals are fine as well...in fact, most glasses are fine just the really large or really bulky ones have issues...